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The Elephant in the Room – Coercion, content creation, and out of the mouths of babes

“It’s stupid to give away your content for free,” my daughter scolded.

Daughter Number 1 is home on a brief layover between journalism stints at New York Magazine and The New York Times Washington D.C. Bureau. We were discussing the parallels between the changes in her profession and mine brought about by the Internet. And when she uttered those words, she pretty much summed up what I see as the central issue to the third-parting syndication debate.

It’s stupid to give away content for free. But so many agents and brokers continue not only to do just that, but to do it proudly, defending their position by suggesting that both consumers are entitled to our content and sellers are harmed if we don’t freely cough it up to anyone who asks.

Neither is true. But both are concepts that are being aggressively promoted by the owners of the third-party “search” sites, like Zillow and Trulia in a rather shameless game of shaming the broker community into giving them what they want – namely, our valuable listing data. They do this by enlisting the public-at-large, both home-shopping consumers and our selling clients, to fight their battle for them. It’s become an all-out media blitz of late. “Hey, it’s not us! You owe it to the people!”

Do we?

“I, for one, applaud ARG’s move. It was bold and, in my opinion, it was right.”

I wrote those words back in January when local brokerage Abbott Realty Group (ARG) took their stand against syndicating listings to third-party sites (like Zillow and Trulia).  That’s my story, and I am sticking to it.

ARG’s fearless leader, Jim Abbott, took a stand, and (at the risk of understating) his position sparked a lot of debate among agents and brokers. Now Jim has published a video follow-up, “Life After Listing Syndication” in which he delivers what I believe to be the most thoughtful, well-crafted argument against third-party site listing syndication I have seen to date. And I have seen a bunch.

Mr. Abbott touched on many points where listing syndication is concerned. Today I focus, primarily, on just one – content – because that is the elephant in the room.

The parallels between journalism and real estate that my daughter and I were discussing are worth considering. Take the similarities between listing syndication to third-party sites and the rise of the Huffington Post.

At the recent White House Correspondents Dinner while addressing Arianna Huffington, President Obama quipped, “There’s no one else out there linking to the kinds of hard-hitting journalism that HuffPo is linking to every single day. Give them a round of applause… And… you don’t pay them! It’s a great business model.” Laughter ensued.

That’s pretty funny, all right. It’s almost as funny as the business models of the listing aggregators like Zillow and Trulia, only the joke’s on us.

The public doesn’t deserve to be given a newspaper or a magazine for free any more than journalists have a moral obligation to give away their content to anyone who will publish it, digitally or otherwise. For real estate agents and brokers, we similarly owe no such duty to populate and monetize other’s business opportunities.

Journalists create content; so do we. The only arguable difference is that our content is, in theory, created with the sole intent of promoting a product for sale – our client’s home.  As a consumer, however, you are probably also aware of the fact that the content is created and shared for the purpose of advertising the creator – the real estate agent and broker. So as you consider the rhetoric coming from the third-party site camps, and from the agents and brokers who defend their pro-syndication stance, consider who the true intended beneficiary of this advertising might really be. Hint: It’s not the home seller.

So if we agree that it is not the consumer’s divine right, nor Zillow’s or Trulia’s, to have our content regurgitated freely, in knee-jerk fashion, to any and every conceivable publisher, then we are left with the argument about whether or not our selling clients are owed product placement on third-party sites – and with the argument about whom the content, in fact, belongs to.

I’ll tackle the latter first. The content about my listing – the photos, the virtual tours, the interactive floor plans, the property description – belongs to me. The home belongs to my client and they are (ultimately) paying me to market that home, but all of that other stuff is stuff I procured, created and paid for. I don’t have an obligation to hand over the results of my labor to sites that endeavor to repurpose and monetize my content any more than I have an obligation to advertise a home on every bus bench in town, in every print publication in existence, or on an aerial banner flown across Pacific Beach on a 70-degree Sunday afternoon. What I do have the obligation to do is market the home logically and effectively in ways that will in fact benefit my client.

What we owe to our clients is exposure for their listings. It’s but one of our job descriptions, but it is the more visible – the role of advertiser and marketer. But to suggest that I am bound by some moral, ethical or social contract to regurgitate my content to every site that might want it, or even to just the ones with the most “hits,” is ludicrous.

And, yet, the spin machine is working overtime to convince us otherwise.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/real-estate-agents-bristle-online-listings

In a report by Marketplace’s Bob Moon, Zillow CEO Spencer Rascoff was quoted as saying, “What seller on earth, especially in a down real estate market, would choose to list their home with an agent who was not going to put their home on the biggest websites in their city?”

That is the quote that appears in the text. If you listen to the audio, what he really said is, “A seller has got to be completely nuts to list their home with a listing agent who wasn’t going to put their home on the biggest websites in their city.” In hindsight, calling consumers “nuts” was probably considered unfortunate phrasing, especially since it is the non-participating agents who were the target of Mr. Rascoff’s verbal bullet.

So, according to the Zillow CEO and depending on which version you favor, either the seller is nuts or I am nuts. Tomato, tomahto. But the fact remains, despite my position that giving away content for free is, in fact, nuts, I would be the biggest champion of the make-Zillow-rich-at-the-expense-of-the-broker cause if it benefited my selling clients. It does not.

For the record, we ceased wholesale syndication of our listings to third-party aggregators over a month ago. We didn’t do it with a fancy, all-guns-blazing media spash, but we did it for our clients and ourselves because it was the right thing to do. Our policy is that, after discussing the pros and cons with our clients, if they still perceive benefit, we will gladly bundle their listings up and ship them off. To date, no one has opted in. It’s nuts, I tell you!

We have established that the data on these sites is grossly inaccurate and unreliable.

And we have acknowledged that Zestimates are generally Ztupid. Every single one of the listings we have taken since we stopped syndication has sold in excess of their Zestimate. One in particular sold in three days with eight offers and at $110,000 over the Zestimate. Dang! If only the sellers had had the requisite exposure on one of “the biggest websites in their city!”

We are receiving buyer calls – many, many more than we received when we were regurgitating our content for fun and philanthropy. How did they even know the home was fore sale? I can only speculate that maybe, just maybe, it’s because all of our listings appear on every IDX site – hundreds of them – in our market. The calls come via our site, our MLS’s own site, and every agent/broker site in our market with a home search feature.

Oh, and maybe it’s because people don’t search one site and call it a day.  If I am looking for a purple purse with green embroidery (I am not), I don’t just hit Bloomingdale’s site and give up. I search the Internet for “purses,” and then “purple handbags” and, most often, by designer name. Most often, serious homebuyers search by neighborhood and even address – a Zillow employee admitted as much to me. The one-stop shopper is the casual shopper and is “just looking.”

The terms of use on these sites are frightening. They should be both concerning to the content creator and to the homeowner.  From Zillow’s own Terms of Service:

For materials you post or otherwise provide to Zillow or in connection with the Services (your "Submission"), you grant Zillow an irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide license to (a) use, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, edit, modify, and translate your Submission, in connection with the Services or in any other media, and (b) sublicense these rights, to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law.

This explains why the property page for one of our current listings shows the photos and the flowery, long-form description from the last time it was offered for sale – in 2007. The former listing agent gave up his rights to his work, yet his legacy (and the legacy of the previous owner) will live on – with no attribution and in any form and anywhere that Zillow sees fit.

Finally, there is the agent advertising – beside, around and below – each listing gifted to Zillow. This is not entirely about me, although I do appreciate being given credit for my work. And this is not about dual agency – not one bit. Agents and brokers who take their fiduciary roles seriously know that nothing could be further from the truth. This is about advertising practices that are deceiving and really bad for the seller.

You see, if your home is not on Zillow or Trulia, the serious buyers – the real buyers – will find you. We have proven that; we know that to be true. If your listing is present on those sites, however, a real buyer may just wander through. And the advertisings host or hostess will be someone who has no fiduciary responsibility to you; they have no incentive or motivation to sell your home. They are there because they paid to play, and their goal is simply to sell any home. They refer to the buyers as “leads,” and by this they mean they consider the buyers to be their “leads,” not yours.

If you don’t believe this, then think about it another way. Would you be OK with having your agent put another brokerage’s sign in your front yard? Why not? Because the buyers would be redirected and misdirected to someone who has no stake in your sale and, most likely, little or no knowledge of your home. It is the same reason we wouldn’t have an agent from another brokerage holding one of our listings open. Our goal is to sell our client’s home; theirs is to just sell a home. At least in the case of an open house, the agent from the outside brokerage might be able to field basic questions like, “Does it have a double oven?” because they are standing in the room at the time. Not so with most paying advertisers on the third-party sites.

Surprisingly, I talk to a lot of agents who loathe the practice of third-party syndication for all of these reasons yet continue to syndicate. They do so because they feel cornered – because they believe their clients demand it. And this is exactly what the syndication sites want you to believe.

But I know our clients are smarter than that. We simply need to be bold enough to, dare I say, do our jobs. Beyond marketing is a very long list of job duties all related to advising our clients. Where our marketing decisions are concerned, we owe them the same duty to present the options and implications of each. You might be surprised that, given the facts, they are less enamored of the syndication concept than you think.

So, to agents and brokers: Syndicate or don't syndicate. The decision is yours — and your client's. But make that decision thoughtfully, based on what is really best for each of you. And remember that your content is yours; if you choose to give it freely, do so because you honestly believe the trade-off is fair — that you will realize fair "compensation" in the form of measurably better results for your clients — not because you felt cornered, coerced and the victim of some self-serving, manufactured public outcry. 

 

 

 

The San Diego Home Show – An Infographic

H/t to Agent Genius for introducing me to Piktochart, a cool little site for creating infographics on the fly without breaking a sweat. Well, it's not really that easy. First you have to have something you want to communicate.

On another morning when I did't have a home inspection looming, I am pretty certain I could get my creative juices flowing and unleash all the glory that is the infographic (All the cool kids are doing it!) to share some complex real estate-related concept. Like why you need a downpayment to buy a house. Or how when banks use the word "streamlined" when refering to their short sale processes, they mean "before you die of natural causes — maybe."

In the meantime, the San Diego Home Show is on my mind.

My spousal unit and I got all bold yesterday. We decided to take a rare trip to normalcy and spend our Sunday recreating. Because our twelve-year-old kitchen cabinets are of the "classic" oak variety (classic being a word that builders and real estate agents use to describe something that no one wants), and because we suspect, given the quality, that they were manufactured by the Middle School Woodshop class (no offense to Middle Schoolers intended), we decided to hit the Fairgrounds and get some remodeling ideas. Steve's alternative was to hike up Iron Mountain, so the Home Show was starting to sound like a rip-roaring way to spend my one day off this year.

And it was! Such a carnival atmosphere! We got some great ideas about remodeling (like, maybe it would be cheaper to just move). And we were also reminded why buyers have perfected the eye-contact-avoidance technique for visiting open houses — and why we burned the proverbial guest register years ago. Hard sell approaches are annoying, insulting and just plain ineffective.

So, without further ado, I give you my masterpiece.

 

Mello Roos Deductibility Update

Isn't this just ducky? Just in time for tax filing (not).

In an interpretive about-face, it would appear that people blessed with a Mello Roos assessment may now continue to claim those payments as deductions on their taxes, according to the California State Franchise Tax Board. And by "people," I mean me.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle:

On the eve of tax-filing deadline, the Franchise Tax Board abandoned its campaign to get California property owners not to deduct a portion of their real estate taxes.

From the Golden State's website:

At this time, we do not plan to add additional reporting requirements related to the real estate tax deduction beginning with the 2012 tax return.

That's good news, of course, but there are a whole bunch of us who would have appreciated getting the memo before the eve of the deadline — before we filed our returns on time like good little citizens.

As always, consult your tax advisor, because I am not one of those guys.

Flippers and Regular Folk

The dark side...
Creative Commons License photo credit: rob st

Looking for a deal? Get in line.

We often tell our selling clients that there are two buyer pools out there. One wants a picture-perfect home with all of the goodies (granite, stainless, resort amenities, dancing bears and ponies) and at rollback pricing. The other wants a deal – one that “needs a little work,” the idea being when that they hang up their hammer, they will sweat equity and bragging rights to show for it.

If you are a buyer, the key is in knowing into which category you fall. You can’t have it both ways. One could argue that you have but one choice.

We recently had a client pass on a beautiful turnkey home, one that was fairly priced and within his budget. “I’m looking for something that needs a little work,” he said. It seems he likes to fix stuff. OK, fine. But either you are shopping for a home or you need a hobby.  Don’t confuse the two.

The reality is, he wants a deal – a steal, even. But the other harsh truth is that, in limiting himself to the falling-down-ugly inventory, inventory with the potential for magic equity to materialize with a couple of weekends of cabinet refacing and fixture replacement, he is going to be competing with droves of trained professionals. He is regular folk.

Jim Klinge, writing about the current flipper frenzy, said it well:

How does (the flipper frenzy) affect the regular folks?

1. If you’re an investor hoping to flip or rent-out, good luck.  The flippers have flooded the street searching for the next deal, and are working on thin margins.  They are soliciting property owners directly via mail and email, and working all the usual spots – trustee sales, defaulter lists, FSBOs, short-sales, MLS, etc.  Because sellers get bombarded, the price typically goes up – there won’t be many steals from now on.

2. Primarily, they are looking for fixers.  If you want a house to occupy and thought you’d save some money by purchasing a dog, you won’t save much.  You can avoid the rush by sticking with the turnkey properties, and hope to buy one with all the trimmings for a fair price.

3.  Appreciation – You might think that a wave of flippers selling renovated properties could lead to rising prices.  Maybe, maybe not – buyers usually can find out how much the flippers paid, and would have to be very frustrated to pay a lot more.  With the sophisticated flippers being careful to buy somewhat under market, and able to add cheap Chinese goods to improve them, they can live on thin margins and not count on appreciation. I think this will lead to a very active trading range of +/- 10% throughout the county, and for every lucky sale that pops through the range’s ceiling, there will be another flipper buying a lower sale to keep the pricing trend moderated.

I added the emphasis on Number 2, because most of the clients we represent fall under the category of “regular folk,” people who are looking for a home that they intend to live in and enjoy. Number 2 should be etched on your foreheads, because that is the reality of our current market – unless you have connections and cash.

And a message for sellers, one I have harped on before: In this market, mediocrity is not rewarded. You are either flipper worthy or you are turnkey awesome. The tougher sell is the home that falls somewhere in the middle.

But, then again, all objections are overcome with price.

 

Closure

This is one of those posts I didn’t want to write. I almost didn’t write it. It’s too difficult, and it’s not about real estate, at least not in the strictest sense. Better to talk about termite inspections or market trends, I thought.  But as important as those things are to our clients, they seem just too trivial today.

Last Thursday, a subset of the San Diego Castles Realty team got together for a little workshop, the subject of which was how we might best dominate the real estate universe by deploying our shiny iPads.

To be honest, it was more of a “How do I turn it on?” session for some in attendance. And while we evolved to topics like electronic signing and other productivity applications, it was inevitable that we eventually found ourselves watching Randy do pirouettes in the middle of Panera’s main traffic aisle as he demonstrated his SpinCam prowess.  (Note: Panera has free WiFi, and we are a low-budget bunch.)

Jeff rolled his eyes. Randy likes to get his geek on, we agreed. And we laughed. It was the last time I saw Jeff.

Jeff Weinberger, our newest team member, best friend of and soon-to-be buyer’s agent for our own Randy Bragdon, passed away unexpectedly and suddenly this past weekend. He was 37 years old.

The last time we spoke, he talked about how excited he was that he finally received his date to take the real estate licensing exam.  After months of preparation, he knew that rotational crops do not convey, and he was able to use “chattle” in a complete sentence (we tested him). He was ready. And we were so excited for him.

Mostly, we were excited for us. Jeff was just the kind of agent we pride ourselves on associating with: Wicked smart, honest, ethical, nicer than nice, and possessing the perfect blend of snarkiness and sarcasm that I so admire. He had a fabulous career ahead of him. If only.

I have rewritten this post a half dozen times, grasping for the right words. And having left a thousand words on the cutting room floor, I have finally settled on this simple thesis. I miss Jeff, and I know that the world — certainly my world — is less complete with his passing.

I ask that all three of our readers send any unused prayers along to his family and his friends. While Jeff is at peace now, they need strength.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • San Diego Castles Realty
  • 10636 Scripps Summit Court, Suite 153
  • San Diego, CA 92131
  • P: 858.530.2374
  • F: 858.876.1701
  • E: info (at) sandiegocastles.com
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  • Kris Berg, Broker
  • DRE# 01853496
  • Steve Berg, Broker
  • CA DRE# 00762095