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Flippers and Regular Folk

The dark side...
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Looking for a deal? Get in line.

We often tell our selling clients that there are two buyer pools out there. One wants a picture-perfect home with all of the goodies (granite, stainless, resort amenities, dancing bears and ponies) and at rollback pricing. The other wants a deal – one that “needs a little work,” the idea being when that they hang up their hammer, they will sweat equity and bragging rights to show for it.

If you are a buyer, the key is in knowing into which category you fall. You can’t have it both ways. One could argue that you have but one choice.

We recently had a client pass on a beautiful turnkey home, one that was fairly priced and within his budget. “I’m looking for something that needs a little work,” he said. It seems he likes to fix stuff. OK, fine. But either you are shopping for a home or you need a hobby.  Don’t confuse the two.

The reality is, he wants a deal – a steal, even. But the other harsh truth is that, in limiting himself to the falling-down-ugly inventory, inventory with the potential for magic equity to materialize with a couple of weekends of cabinet refacing and fixture replacement, he is going to be competing with droves of trained professionals. He is regular folk.

Jim Klinge, writing about the current flipper frenzy, said it well:

How does (the flipper frenzy) affect the regular folks?

1. If you’re an investor hoping to flip or rent-out, good luck.  The flippers have flooded the street searching for the next deal, and are working on thin margins.  They are soliciting property owners directly via mail and email, and working all the usual spots – trustee sales, defaulter lists, FSBOs, short-sales, MLS, etc.  Because sellers get bombarded, the price typically goes up – there won’t be many steals from now on.

2. Primarily, they are looking for fixers.  If you want a house to occupy and thought you’d save some money by purchasing a dog, you won’t save much.  You can avoid the rush by sticking with the turnkey properties, and hope to buy one with all the trimmings for a fair price.

3.  Appreciation – You might think that a wave of flippers selling renovated properties could lead to rising prices.  Maybe, maybe not – buyers usually can find out how much the flippers paid, and would have to be very frustrated to pay a lot more.  With the sophisticated flippers being careful to buy somewhat under market, and able to add cheap Chinese goods to improve them, they can live on thin margins and not count on appreciation. I think this will lead to a very active trading range of +/- 10% throughout the county, and for every lucky sale that pops through the range’s ceiling, there will be another flipper buying a lower sale to keep the pricing trend moderated.

I added the emphasis on Number 2, because most of the clients we represent fall under the category of “regular folk,” people who are looking for a home that they intend to live in and enjoy. Number 2 should be etched on your foreheads, because that is the reality of our current market – unless you have connections and cash.

And a message for sellers, one I have harped on before: In this market, mediocrity is not rewarded. You are either flipper worthy or you are turnkey awesome. The tougher sell is the home that falls somewhere in the middle.

But, then again, all objections are overcome with price.

 

Kris Berg

Kris Berg is Co-Owner and Designated Broker of San Diego Castles Realty. She has been serving San Diego buyers and sellers since 1997.

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  • J.M.

    How many house “Flippers” are actively operating in the San Diego area? And where are they? I have cash to buy a house, I want a decent turn-key house that has been renovated……yet there are none to be found in my target areas!92110, 92111 S.W. Clairemont, NOT Linda Vista! And 92107, 92107Where are the renovated houses?!

    • Steve

      J.M. – There are no formal “lists” of Flippers to my knowledge. We know that approx. 23% of the home sales in San Diego over the past twelve months were to investors, some of whom buy homes to keep as investments/rentals and others who are flipping. Seasoned agents (we have some of those) usually get to know who is flipping in various markets. But the key really (as self serving as it sounds) is to form a relationship with a good agent who can sit on the MLS daily for you and nail every possible new listing as soon as it hits the market.

      In a strong market (and it is strong right now for certain price ranges and locations) we have always told our clients to “have your engine running when we call you” with a new listing that meets your purchase requirements because there’s probably five other agents doing the same thing for their clients.

      I was just involved in a flip with one of my buyer clients. I spoke to the listing agent (who is part of the flipper group) and asked him how the market was for acquiring homes to flip, His answer was, “It’s a bloodbath.” He went on to say that two years ago there was a large inventory of homes to choose from at the courthouse steps. Now, he said, the inventory is almost dried up. Too many investors chasing too few homes. So, many flippers may not be doing it much longer.       

      • J.M.

        Thanks for the info. It seemed like there was less opportunity to find a renovated house in my price range, and any that do come up are pre-sold in advance of being listed. Or the house flipping company has an in-house real estate agent that already has a list of interested buyers, and everyone else is out of luck. I wondered how to find out about them before they are sold.
        There are a number of tax laws set to change January 1st 2013 that makes things more difficult for me to pay cash, ( because I would have less to work with) so I am needed to find one before then!! Thanks.

        • Steve

          Finding out about them before they are listed is a “get in line” proposition. We all would love to do that. There are homes are out there and most are showing up in the MLS,  but they do go quickly. It’s not just having the ability to react fast but knowing how to structure your offer to beat the others you will be competing against. Our entire team is dealing with this regularly for clients and, more often than not, winning.  I wish you the best.    

  • Sundaygover

    And never the two shall cross…

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  • San Diego Castles Realty
  • 10636 Scripps Summit Court, Suite 153
  • San Diego, CA 92131
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