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Get it while it's hot: A post-Thanksgiving housing market assessment.

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(Pictured: Daughter Number 1)

This is what the scene looked like on Thanksgiving as the nuclear Bergs attempted some forced family fun away from the mother ship in our little Lake Arrowhead A-frame.  Ah, the memories!

Today, back in Scripps Ranch, we are thankful for many things, including:

  1. A mountain neighbor’s unsecured wireless account;
  2. The “cloud” which allowed a new listing to debut online moments before the turkey hit the table;
  3. Pre-cooked turkey; and,
  4. Daughter Number 2’s successful submission of college applications three days before deadline, suggesting that there is now an outside chance she will not be living at home when she is forty.

Judging from the scene of dishevelment, where power cords outnumbered people, it was a just your typical Thanksgiving for a family where the tally board showed Realtors (little ‘R’) and teenagers in a dead heat. But, what a strange year it has been.

I was chatting with a cousin on Thanksgiving day about (brace yourself) real estate as he was noting quizzically how in his California Bay area community, sales are up, listings are down, and yet prices are relatively flat. This bucks the typical laws a supply and demand, but then the current housing market dynamics are anything but typical.

Take the San Diego I-15 Corridor two-year snapshot:

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And, yes, our prices remain relatively flat.

The Wall Street Journal reported last week that approximately one in four homeowners are underwater, owing more on their mortgage than their home is worth. Meanwhile, Zillow.com reported that approximately one-quarter of homeowners think their home values have increased this year while 84% believe that their home values will hold or increase over the next year.

There is a lot of weirdness going around. From my view in the cheap seats, there are three significant factors contributing to our current craziness:

  • Too many distress sales at the lower price points mean that the move-up buyer pool is small. Someone moves into the home which was a short sale or bank owned, and there is no one moving out. This dead-end street continues to plague the move-up market.
  • Appraisers are establishing market value, not buyers. The majority of our appraisals are now “missing” – coming in below the contract price – this, in many situations, despite the fact that we have multiple offers. Case in point, in one recent transaction, we had twenty offers. Even though the sellers accepted something in the middle (not the highest offer, rightly fearing the wrath of the appraisal Gods), and even though the appraisal came in within striking distance of sale price, the lender arbitrarily knocked another 20% off of the appraised value at the last minute “just ‘cause.”  Today, a home is not worth what a ready, willing and able buyer is prepared to pay; it is worth what the appraiser and lender say it is worth. Period.
  • “Underwater” means that homeowners who might otherwise have moved are, at best, staying put. In too many other cases, they are throwing in the towel and helping to feed the dead-end sale cycle.

But then, who’s to blame them?

As reported this week by, well, everyone, a University of Arizona law school professor tells us it is not only not immoral, but fiscally responsible to stiff the lenders and walk away from our debt when the balance sheet has rotated on its axis.

According to the LA Times, Brent T. White even goes so far as to suggest that homeowners should consider defaulting “strategically”  by purchasing “all the major items they’ll need for the next couple of years — a new car, even a new house — just before they pull the plug on their current mortgage lender.”

Meanwhile, California Association of Realtors President James Liptak says this of the 2010 housing outlook:

After experiencing its sharpest decline in history, we expect the median (home) price to rise modestly next year. 2010 will mark the beginning of the “new normal” for California’s housing market. This “new normal” likely will feature a steady stream of sales driven by distressed properties in the low end of the market, coupled with moderate home-price appreciation.

I hope the appraisers get the memo.

CAR Chief Economist Leslie Appleton-Young, apparently having read Mr. White’s academic paper, has this to say:

Although it appears at this time that lenders are closely monitoring the flow of distressed properties onto the market, there could be an exertion of downward pressure on home prices should a heavier than expected wave of foreclosures come to market next year.

Ya think? So, my prediction is at least another year of nuttiness. Sellers who can sit out this dance will; many others will heed the advice of Mr. White and take advantage of our trending return policy. And, particularly at the lower price points, there will continue to be competing demand as buyers endeavor to get it while it’s hot. As for values, you’ll have to ask the appraisers.

Kris Berg

Kris Berg is Co-Owner and Designated Broker of San Diego Castles Realty. She has been serving San Diego buyers and sellers since 1997.

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  • Jakob

    Did none of the reasonable offers out of 20, have a significant down payment such that closing didn’t hinge on the appraisal?

  • http://sandiegohomeblog.com Kris Berg

    J – It’s not just the deposit that matters. You have to have a buyer willing to accept the fact that the home didn’t appraise. Psychologically, this is still a big hurdle for buyers to overcome. Also, by big, you mean more than 20%, so unless you have investors involved, this is still a rarity.

  • Jakob

    Yeah, I guess that would give anyone pause….

    Just tell them: yeah you are probably over paying, but there are at least 19 other people also smoking the good stuff so don’t worry you can just flip it to them if you lose your job.
    :)

  • Smithers

    Hi Bergs.

    Reader no. 4 here. We went down to my brother’s for TG. They live at ground zero of the housing bubble pop, also known as “Eastvale” (aptly named, since it is located at the west end Riverside county). Looks like you guys got a little snow at Arrowhead on Friday night – Saturday morning. We had a short but loud pre-dawn hail storm, complete with thunder and lightning.

    I suppose the observable supply-demand curve is not so helpful because so much of the market is happening at the “low” end. there are not enough REOs and short sales at the “high” end to create a similar market dynamic. Unless and until more high end properties HAVE to be sold, things will stay the same. There is always uncertainty, there is more uncertainty these days than the average bear or bull can handle. In the mean time, sellers don’t want to “give it away,” and buyers are not interested unless they can “steal one from the bank” (to quote JtR), so nothing happens.

    Your beautiful daughter no. 1 has her father’s smile.

  • http://www.carinzimmer.com Carin Arrigo-Zimmer

    Daughter Number 1 looks lovely among the various goodies in Arrowhead, including 2 laptops!

    I read the article in the LA Times regarding Brent T. White, by Kenneth Harney, “Professor advises underwater homeowners to walk away from mortgages” as well. Sort of contradicts a preceding article in the same section, written by Alejandro Lazo; “Letting your home go into foreclosure does have consequences” Tough call. (I’d share the link if I knew how to! This box is not Twitter, FB, E-Mail, Digg, etc. =) )

  • http://sandiegohomeblog.com Kris Berg

    Carin – I will work on upgrading my comment boxes for you. :) Yes, two laptops — stacked. This is what has become of of!

    Smithers – Yes, she has his smile, and it only cost me several thousand dollars.

    You wouldn’t believe the Friday night/Saturday morning snow. We had to leave early Saturday to get the million dollar mouth back to the plane for college, and Steve ending up driving my VW bug down the hill fearing that, left in my hands, I would be lost forever in some snowdrift. It was a little dicey driving the unplowed roads, even for a mid-west boy.

  • http://www.sandiegohomeblog.com Steve Berg

    Smithers – Re: the smile, I’ll take that as a compliment. Lord knows I don’t get many of those, anymore.Thank you. I wish you could have seen Type A wife not wanting to give up the wheel of her little Bug as she hopelessly spun her wheels in the snow. But it was not negotiable. The California Girl finally met her match in the winter conditions.

  • Smithers

    Steve,

    Very much a compliment. We have sons. They are grubby and could shower and shave more often. On the other hand, they are probably less expensive ….

    One of my more endearing male pig qualities (I have many, according to my wife) is that no-way I let Mrs. Smithers take the wheel when I’m in the car, let alone in the snow. At least make her put the chains on (the front tires) first. If she can do that, then maybe she gets to “drive” a few hundred yards.

  • Dwip

    One cannot help but notice that your daughter has a laptop on a laptop on a desk, which I am nominating as the new form of turducken. I can only hope the top laptop was wrapped around a Blackberry, which was wrapped around an iPod.

    One also hears that you might *start* with a laptop on a laptop, but overly-plugged-in syndrome soon enters a downward spiral that can only end in tears and blogging. Other symptoms are making angry, downward trending red graphs and happy, eco-sensitive upward trending green graphs with exuberant rising trend lines.

  • http://column5blog.com Rebecca Berg

    Daughter #1 needs to read your blog more often, Mom, to prevent embarrassing pictures of said daughter from being posted in the future!

    May I forbid the use of any/all photographs taken during the 007 Days of Christmas? You can take up the specific terms of use with my manager.

  • http://sandiegohomeblog.com Kris Berg

    Becky – Daughter #1 needs to lighten up. :) You look beautiful, but I agree to refrain from posting further vacation pictures without the proper signed releases.

  • http://www.sandiegohomeblog.com Steve Berg

    Kris – As an authorized guardian, I hereby approve of any and all pictures of Daughter #1 you wish to post. She obviously has not seen my Facebook Thanksgiving Photo Album. I would, however, recommend that she not stack laptops in the future.

  • Susan Berg Zuckerman

    Bergs,
    Despite immediate protests from one and all to the contrary, your clever bantering and verbiage are rending me (well, almost) speechless! Steven, you get compliments 24/7, so don’t be shy. Kris, you are brilliant and although I am not schooled in residential real estate, I always learn something from you. And finally, Daughter #1 got that beautiful smile from her #1 cousin, Lauren. Her sister has it too. Our gene pool really maxed out all around.
    Love and Happiest New Year, SBZ

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