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Redfin’s new Agent Scouting Reports. I call horse hooey.

Brian Boero calls it the “most disruptive online real estate play in years.” He was talking about Redfin’s new agent scouting reports.

Here is the short version. Straight from the MLS to you, Redfin now brings you statistics on closed transactions for every real estate agent who is a member of the MLS in their market areas. They call it their Agent Scouting Report, and it sounds good on the face.

As quoted on the 1000Watt blog, Redfin CEO Glenn Kelman had this to say:

In some cases, what you’ll see is that an agent at another brokerage is a better fit for that neighborhood, an inevitability that has been a source of great controversy within Redfin. Why would we ever help anyone realize that a Coldwell Banker agent is her best choice?

But once you ask that question, you’ve already framed the debate in terms of short-term consequences rather than long-term principles. It leads you down a path where every market analysis concludes that it’s a good time to buy, and every review of a Redfin agent is five-stars.

The world doesn’t need more brokers like that. It needs a broker who will just tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We’ll win more clients that way than we’ll lose — and we’ll win everyone’s trust.

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So noble! Except, that is, when the presentation of the “truth” is conveniently inconsistent. I’m calling horse hooey.

It’s important to remember that Redfin is first and foremost a real estate brokerage. They are not philanthropists or public servants. Their goal is to profit, not to selflessly educate and empower the poor, confused consumer. Publishing agent ratings online may or may not be a good idea, but if Redfin didn’t perceive it as a good idea for their business and bottom line, they wouldn’t bother.

The potential gold from agent “scouting reports” is being mined in two ways. First, and most obviously, the data will likely prove to be the SEO mother lode, adding eyes and value to an already (admittedly) robust website providing an awesome home search experience. (This much I am willing to admit. I am a reasonable guy.) What may be less readily apparent is that, despite Mr. Kelman’s protestations that principles made him do it, it is an opportunity to portray Redfin agents as being among the top in production.

First, I’ll begin by saying that while there have been complaints of data inaccuracy in some markets (in fact causing Redfin to temporarily suspend the agent reports in Washington, D.C. and Arizona), my very quick look at the San Diego data suggests the numbers are mostly correct. But, as with all numbers, they are subject to interpretation.

Without caveat or context, the consumer is left to make sense of a bunch of statistics being offered up like tablets from the mountaintop.  And the biggest issue I see is the reporting problem associated with the popular agent team model. This, by the way, is only a problem for traditional agents; for Redfin, it is an opportunity to use imperfect data to their benefit. I believe they know exactly what they are doing, but more on my conspiracy theory in a moment.

Take the typical agent. They work solo. They show homes, list homes, meet the property inspector, the appraiser and the termite guy, they write and negotiate the contracts, and  — well, you get the idea. This agent may close 10 or 20 or 50 transactions in a year, and it’s all there on the website for your enjoyment.

Now, take an agent team. In the team concept, all sales are recorded under the team leader’s name. The team may be a husband and wife team (guilty as charged), it may be a group of agents numbering several or several dozen (effectively a brokerage within a brokerage), or it may in fact be a brokerage. In these cases, the scouting reports for the individual licensees working under the front man or woman will suggest that they have no visible means of support and that your transaction will represent their maiden voyage into the exciting world of real property transactions. The team leader, on the other hand, will appear to be the hottest thing since Tabasco. For the consumer, there is no way to make the distinction.

Who is the better agent? The team leader or the traditional agent who is CEO, COO, CFO, Customer Service Rep, IT Department, and head dishwasher? That is up to the consumer to decide. What is important is that you can’t answer that question just by looking at the numbers.

But what if that’s all you’ve got? Enter Redfin. Unless you live in a lean-to far above base camp, you know that their lead agents do the high profile work – they ink the contracts, and the sales record under their names. Behind them, however, is a host of support staff, from field agents who actually show the homes to transaction coordinators who actually do the transactional work.

As Seattle agent Marlow Harris wrote, “Traditional agents don’t have ‘field agents’ to show homes or millions of dollars of other people’s money to build websites or to refund in the form of buyers rebates… They (Redfin) are doing it to make themselves look good and to manipulate the numbers to give the impression that their agency and individual agents are superior.”

Do I hate that Redfin is publishing this data? Not really, as long as the data is accurate. My numbers are solid. Have at it. What I do take issue with is the feigned higher ground upon which they are planting this flag. Admit that you are publishing statistics for profit and in a way that suggests your agents are awesome sauce compared to the rest of us, other “lesser” agents, and then you might at least win my respect on points.

For the big finish, I’ll offer this interesting observation. If transparency is truly your motive and altruism your end game, why portray the numbers differently for Redfin and non-Redfin agents?

Look me up, and you will find many search choices: Sellers in last 12 months; buyers in last 12 months; sellers in last 3 years; and buyers in last three years.

Now look up a San Diego Refin agent. What you get is clients in the last twelve months. What happened to the buyer/seller breakdown? What about the three-year history?

My guess is that with a little time and traction under their belt, that might change – because the numbers will suddenly smile more favorably on Redfin. That is, after all, the point — make no mistake. Caveat emptor.

Update: Redfin pulled their Agent Scouting Reports yesterday citing issues with the data. That didn’t take long.

Kris Berg

Kris Berg is Co-Owner and Designated Broker of San Diego Castles Realty. She has been serving San Diego buyers and sellers since 1997.

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  • Realitycheck

     A good agent gets all they business they can handle without any of the BS.

  • Anonymous

    Elegance in simplicity.

  • http://jphilip.com J Philip Faranda

    Kris, I was Redfin’s first partner agent in New York. I am no longer, which is a discussion for another time. 
    Like you, I have no issue with my data being public, as I trade on my production. No worries there. But the data on me is incomplete, and the disclaimer that my main MLS data is missing only appears if you are logged in. This is as disingenuous as the post close client surveys they’d publish where an octogenarian with no email was categorized as “agent failed to provide contact information,” when in fact they simply didn’t have email.

    My biggest concern is the field report claim that they can report dual agency transactions. Without burglarizing my files and reading disclosures, they have no business reporting a transaction where I get MLS credit on both sides as dual agency when in fact under NY law I had the listing client and the buyer as a non fiduciary customer.

    If they are going to do this, it should be done right or not at all. That said, they are a brokerage and my competitor, not an unbiased 3rd party, so I’m not sure it is appropriate for them to appoint themselves as reporter of this data. 

  • http://virtualresults.net Drew Meyers

    Totally agree

  • Anna Nevares

    Kris and Steve
    On the right side of every Redfin agent’s profile there is a “filters” option that will give you all of the same breakdowns for buyer/seller in addition to being able to filter by house, condo, price range, and more.

  • http://www.sandiegocastles.com Kris Berg

    Thanks Anna. That feature wasn’t readily apparent to me.

  • Jim the Realtor

    Redfin gave up on the scouting reports already.

  • Anonymous

    So I heard. http://www.inman.com/news/2011/10/4/redfin-pulls-agent-scouting-reports

    Seems data was the issue? Not, say, something like this:

    12.11 Use of SANDICOR, Inc. MLS Information. In recognition that the purpose of SANDICOR, Inc. is to market
    properties and offer compensation to other broker participants and r.e.
    subscribers for the sole purpose of selling the property, and that sellers of
    properties filed with the service have not given permission to disseminate the
    information for any other purpose, participants and subscribers are expressly
    prohibited from using MLS information for any purpose other than to market
    property to bona fide prospective purchasers or to support market evaluations
    or appraisals as specifically allowed by Sections 12.14, 12.15, 12.16 and
    12.19. Any use of MLS information inconsistent with these Sections is expressly
    prohibited.
    Nothing in this Section, however, shall limit SANDICOR, Inc. from
    entering into licensing agreements with MLS participants and subscribers or
    other third parties for use of the MLS information. (emphasis added)

  • Jim the Realtor

    Good morning!

    Glenn kind of made it sound like he sorta had permission, but I can’t imagine a dinosaur like Sandicor granting him or anybody the right to publish the sales history of agents.  It’s over, and not coming back.

    I think it’s because Glenn hasn’t been in the business as long as me and you that he keeps playing nice.  If he gets ticked off someday and starts his own MLS, he could take over the industry.  We’d all be redfinners then, because Sandicor, Realtor.com, etc. are the Betamax of on-line real estate portals.

    Glenn needs to give the old guard the finger.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for pointing that out. It wasn’t readily apparent to me.

  • Anonymous

    You are right about the permission part, Jim, but I don’t get the playing nice part. Playing nice would have been to follow the rules and regs of data use, right or wrong. Instead the “act first and apologize later” approach backfired… or did it? It created a lot of buzz and publicity, and once again they will capitalize on the renegade/bad boy/defender of the consumer image they have so carefully nurtured for years.

  • Jim the Realtor

    Bad boy?  They may have started out like that, but now they are just another discount/rebate brokerage with a hot website.

    If I had his money, I would have taken over the real estate universe by now.  I don’t know why he doesn’t? 

    Maybe he is? Antics like this could have behind-the-scenes benefits – did he do this to index redfin pages under every agent’s name in America?

  • Anonymous

    “did he do this to index redfin pages under every agent’s name in America”

    Ya think?

  • Jim the Realtor

    If he did, it proves how much of a wuss he really is, trying to go through the back door shortcut to maybe someday be a bigger player than he is now.

    Instead, he could blow the doors off the whole industry.

    Redfin could implement the two-headed snake:

    1.  Create their own MLS, hire the best agents in each market and advertise it like crazy right up Main Street, instead of some sneaky backdoor internet indexing trick.

    2.  Take the same MLS direct to the consumer, and have great agents available to assist.

    I Pay One was a popular concept here in SD, but they didn’t have great agents to complete the sales.  When they closed, they had 70 listings – the consumer wanted the idea, but I Pay None couldn’t close.

    If Redfin could find the balance of paying a couple of dozen long-time and famous brand-name agents (like you) in each market with lower commissions or rebates, they could take over.

    But few appreciate how critical the great agents are to the equation.  Anna is doing a good job and I’m rooting for her, but to get the realtor community to take heed they’d have to see big-name agents defecting to Redfin.

  • http://www.scottmaizlish.com Minerva

    They are a competitor and I don’t think they should have go on with their Agent Scouting Report. If they can’t give the correct data, then they should just stop what they’re doing.

  • Property in jaipur

    Excellent blog and great post

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