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The vernacular of a "deal" – Don't sell yourself short.

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Phil Hoover at the Boise Blog (they tell me that’s in Idaho) suggested that foreclosed properties aren’t always the best deals in town. You will find no argument from Steve and me, yet this seems to be a common misconception among many would-be buyers currently trying to sniff out an opportunity for instant equity.

Much like agents like to toss acronyms about (MLS, NAR, GRI)  forgetting that not everyone in the real world understands our curious language, we tend to speak in tongues when it comes to distressed property sales: REO, short sale, foreclosure, NOD. These terms are so much of my daily life, that I often forget that not everyone really understands their meanings. I was recently discussing a home for sale with a (very savvy) client. Upon my mentioning that it was a short sale, my client asked, “What does that mean?” So, first a little primer.

Homes for sale in the San Diego real estate market today come in many different flavors, and can generally be broken down as follows:

  • Traditional, non-distress sale: Owner needs to or wants to sell and has equity. At closing, seller will receive proceeds from the sale.
  • Traditional, distress sale: Owner needs to sell due to personal circumstances. Time is of the essence, they are highly motivated (not selling is not an option). 
  • Short sale: At closing, proceeds from the sale will be insufficient to cover the costs and encumbrances including costs of sale (title, escrow, agent fees) and money owed to lenders, the tax collector, and other lien holders. In these cases, the seller will look to the lender(s) to accept less than what is owed as repayment. The lender may forgive the debt or they may require future repayment of the balance due. This may have credit rating and state income tax implications, but thanks to recent Federal legislation, the forgiven debt might not be subject to Federal income taxation.
  • Potential short sale: Depending on the final sale price, the seller may or may not be in a short position. We call these “squeakers.”
  • REO (or Real Estate Owned): The lender has foreclosed on the property and was unable to sell the home (for an “acceptable” price) at auction. The bank is now the owner, and they are trying to clear the inventory.
  • NOD (or Notice of Default): This is not a type of sale, but a circumstance which may apply to all but the REO and Traditional/Non-distress sales. A Notice of Default is recorded by the lender when an owner has failed to make scheduled loan payments over a period of time, usually three months, but this can vary. A NOD marks the beginning of the foreclosure process.

Steve is working with a buyer right now who only wants to see bank-owned and short sale listings. No matter how often he reminds the buyer that there are equally attractive opportunities in the form of traditionally listed properties, he only wants to see the REOs and shorts. Alas, the customer is always right, so that is what he gets. But, as Phil pointed out, REOs and short sales come with a lot of baggage, and a buyer shouldn’t assume that these situations present the best value proposition. They often don’t.

First, these distress sale properties are rarely in excellent condition, and the buyer will most likely be taking them in their present state; what you see is what you get. There is a slightly better chance that you can negotiate repairs in the REO situation (and we have successfully done this on numerous occasions), but this will come in the form of a credit, usually toward price, so don’t expect a turn-key home delivered to you at closing.

Secondly, banks do not perform at Mach speed. They are big, they are bureaucratic, and, mostly, they are very, very busy. A response within thirty days of offer submittal is cause for breaking out the party hats. In fact, our most recent short sale listing left buyer, seller, and agents living in a three-month cone of silence. Some lenders are better than others, and REOs tend to move more swiftly, but every distress sale adventure is a surprise package. If timing is an issue, these are not the homes for you.

Finally, if your purchase is contingent on the sale of another property (you have a home to sell), forget about it. You are automatically disqualified; thank you for playing.

Homes are sold for many reasons, and the sellers each have different reasons and different degrees of urgency. “Motivated” sellers come in many flavors. A stereotype may sometimes, even often, prove true, but when a buyer limits themselves to only one type of sale situation, they may be selling themselves short.

(Standard disclaimer applies: We are not attorneys or accountants. You should always seek the advice of these professionals if you are a homeowner who finds yourself in one of these distress sale situations.)

Amended to add this link to a related (much more comprehensive) article: 3OceansRealty. Geez, what a copy-cat I am! I need to get out more.

Kris Berg

Kris Berg is Co-Owner and Designated Broker of San Diego Castles Realty. She has been serving San Diego buyers and sellers since 1997.

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  • jakob

    Very informative post, thanks!

    REO must be the dumbest acronymn ever! Real Estate Owned? As opposed to what? Not owned? All real estate for sale is owned or it couldn’t be sold. Bank owned is much more informative, I think.

  • http://sandiegohomeblog.com Kris Berg

    Jakob, I had never real thought much about the REO acronym, but you are right. It is kind of dumb, isn’t it? It should really be Bank Owned Real Estate, but that would just be a BORE.

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  • http://www.BoiseBlog.com Phil Hoover

    Well said, Kris!
    I will make this brief because I am a busy CRS and ABR who must now REOs :)
    I posted on short sales a couple of days ago:
    http://www.boiseblog.com/journal/2008/2/18/fun-and-games-with-short-sales.html
    Jakob is right – I had forgotten how perplexed I was, as a new agent eons ago, when I heard the term “real estate owned”. I always wondered why they didn’t just call them “foreclosures”.
    I think it may be a balance sheet term for the banking industry?

  • http://SanDiegoHomeBlog.com Kris Berg

    >I posted on short sales a couple of days ago

    Which, my little speed reading friend, is precisely why I linked to that post in the first sentence. :)

  • http://www.BoiseBlog.com Phil Hoover

    Deer Speed Reeder -
    I thought you picked up on my foreclosure post :)

  • Dave

    I’m a reasonable person, but anyone buying a home in today’s market that doesn’t know what a short sale is is NOT savvy, and certainly not “very savvy.”

  • http://sandiegohomeblog.com Kris Berg

    Dave, In all due respect, very savvy can mean someone who is well-read and has bought and sold many homes before. The false assumption you make is one I have to catch myself on frequently; not everyone with an interest in real estate lives and breathes it to the same extent that I (or you) do.

    I totally get your point, but I am inclined to defend my client, who has other interests and hobbies. The point of the post was this – If one person who I assumed would understand the meaning of “short sale” didn’t, there are many, many more who don’t as well, that I am unaware of . It was intended to be informational.

    I consider myself pretty savvy where where technology matters are concerned, but I don’t “get” it all, and by a long shot. What is common speak to one of us is quite foreign to another, and our readers have varied backgrounds and experiences.

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  • Jeff

    REO (Real Estate Owned) comes from a line on the bank’s Call Report. This is a financial accounting report that must be submitted to the Federal Reserve each quarter. It’s important to examiners in assessing the health of a financial institution because it is easy to hide financial problems by using inflated values of assets. If REO is high or getting higher based on the asset size of the bank then examiners will look closer at how the bank determined these values. I doubt that there are enough examiners to look at the huge numbers that are being reported today.

  • http://SanDiegoHomeBlog.com Kris Berg

    Yea, Jeff! Thank you for that explanation. I honestly never knew the origin of the term. Now I am empowered with more knowledge than I know what to do with! :)

  • http://www.ericonsarch.com Eric Blackwell

    Jeff;

    Cool info…I did not know the origin of the term…How appropriate that the anti spam word is Cheers…

    Now I can “Cliff Claven” someone with my newfound nugget of trivia!

    Really nice talking to you on the phone BTW-Jeff.

    Oh yeah…Kris…this is a great post and it is a frustration shared by the vast majority of agents in our office…

    Best

    Eric

  • http://www.bubbleinfo.com Jim Klinge

    From Cliff Clavin:

    “Well ya see, Norm, it’s like this… A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But, naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That’s why you always feel smarter after a few beers.”

    PS Thanks for lunch

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